Introducing the Fifth Political Theory

The Fifth Political Theory (5PT) seeks to conceptualize a non-nationalist approach to the perpetuity of Western people(s) and their cultures in our world. When completed, it is my hope to have formed a sound theory aimed at reconciling our heritage and the legacy of our empires and nation-states with our most viable future prospect, which is becoming a stateless diaspora people or peoples.

Per Alexander Dugin, the first three political theories are Liberalism, Communism, and Fascism. In brief, his Fourth Political Theory (4PT), while deliberately not an -ism, contains elements of communism, fascism, and pan-nationalism(s) lumped together under the label of Tradition and the cause of opposing Westernization (which to him is a chimera of secularization, imperialism, and capitalism). 4PT is tied to Eurasianist geopolitics (Russia as the center of the world) and similar to the idea of “the autarky of great spaces” that also has currency among the European New Right, particularly Guillaume Faye’s work. 4PT conceives of vast civilizational blocs and a multipolar world, but does so from the perspective of promoting peace and preserving the diversity of traditional cultures against what is considered capitalist- and imperialist-driven homogenization. In that sense 4PT diverges from the more popular geopolitics of Samuel Huntington, who theorizes these blocs as primed for war with one another rather than forming a system to check the advance of Liberalism.

What makes 5PT an innovation upon this, localized to the specific needs of Western peoples (rather than Russians and Middle-Eastern peoples), among other things is chiefly that the national or pan-national approach is replaced by one of diasporic tribes, both sub-national and trans-national. That is to say, due to the intellectual and political trajectory of the Western world, we exist not as peoples with states, but inside them. And among those who have cultivated a mindset of “saving” their nation, the hardest pill to swallow is that they will only be able to save those who elect to save themselves—to form a diasporic tribe rather than being dissolved into the homogenizing mass of consumption and nihilism. 5PT is about studying, defining, and implementing the ideal of the diasporic tribe.

Apart from literature to this end, the long-term goal is to create our own inter-connected communities and networks that would exist independently of whatever empire happens to nominally rule us, under the assumption that we will need to endure for a very long time without a sovereign state or states.

The Alt Right/white nationalists/blatant Nazis are fond of arguing that there is a “white genocide” or that “white countries” are being blended out of existence through immigration and the diversity ideology. What they are not fond of pointing out is that there is no viable solution to the problem they have portrayed. Europeans and Eurocolonials, or “white people,” routinely refuse to “ban” the immigration that is “causing” this. Slim majorities or pluralities of the electorate in these countries favor nativism and an unquantifiably lower share supports the kind of ethnic nationalism peddled by the Alt Right. And a civil war, while appealing to some identitarian adrenaline junkies, would be a catastrophic loss.

It is true that the Western heritage is in decline all across our world, as our numbers shrink relative to the growth of Asia, Africa, and Latin America, and as people from those regions move unopposed into what we conceive of as our “regions”—and as we ourselves become more absorbed into a bland, universalist, interchangeable consumer culture.

But it is also true that in the aggregate, Europeans and Eurocolonials have no interest in taking self-presevatory action to counter these trends. Remember, you can only save those who elect to save themselves.

So for those that care about the perpetuity of the West, our values, our heritage, our traditions, and our families, is the solution really to be found in speaking in terms of nations and geopolitics? Outside of perhaps Poland and Hungary (which themselves are part of the pro-immigration European Union), are there any European or Eurocolonial nations which support ethnic nationalism and nativism? Are there any nations which conceive of themselves as nations outside of the third world and Eastern Europe?

5PT recognizes the nation (and its derivative political organ, the nation-state) as a historical expression in the continuity of civilization, not a constant. We are now witnessing as much, that the nation is not constant. What can be constant is what can be controlled. And what can be controlled are ourselves and who we choose to form connections and communities within our own lives. And what we know from history is that peoples who are too tied to particular states disappear when those states disappear, while communities can last across multiple states and eras, sometimes permanently.

It is becoming anachronistic to speak of ourselves as belonging a particular nation, since those nations do not even care for their own existence. This is a dangerous paradigm to remain trapped in, but the diaspora model is a way out. We should embrace this de-nationalization in recognizing that ethnocentric Europeans and Eurocolonials who want to have a future are an unconscious stateless people who we need to awaken into the Western diaspora.

5PT, unlike most other political theories, will not focus on wielding power in the international state system or directing it at other groups internally, but on creating spaces and networks for our people which are capable of resisting the trends that work against us. Rather than engaging in theories of global conflict or coexistence between nations, of more interest is finding ways to live with the conflicts inside countries or civilization blocs that threaten our existence as a diaspora, and using the power we cultivate and acquire to secure our interests as a tribe.

Instead of a preoccupation with nationalism, statism, or electoral politics, 5PT is about the self-selected tribe, no questions asked and nothing owed to others unless necessary for its perpetuity. It is not about the capture and direction of a state but the creation of folk communities and ethnic networks both sub-national and trans-national, capable of enduring under any state that would tolerate them and able to assist those living where they are not tolerated. As these communities and networks develop, they will allow us to be more influential in both world affairs and our own self-governance. Such will be the essence of the diasporic tribe.

The single greatest reason 5PT disputes nationalism as a solution is the problem of power and the absence of favorable conditions. Under the demo-bureaucratic state we find in any Atlanticist country, political power is an abstraction. It has been intermediated through an electoral process in which powerful interest groups delegate the authority to perform state functions to temporary bureaucratic administrators. The election serves as a secularized initiation rite, one in which power is recognized rather than genuinely invested or conferred. Thus, power must exist before assuming the machinery of the state through an election. Ethnic nationalists lack this power as they do not form a powerful interest group. Ethnocentric Europeans and Eurocolonials, moreover, are too small of a minority to directly govern a demo-bureaucratic state where the majority of the citizenry oppose them.

Remember, this is not your country and not your system. You are the outsider, and yet you have been trained to be loyal to a master who does not value you. You are the sons and daughters of a civilization that has fallen. Your task, should you take it up, is to build a stronger and more resilient tribe than all the rest, with its own culture and institutions in order to navigate the world we live in. This is the first step towards achieving anything beyond what our raw numbers enable. I believe that the power of the Western diaspora is yet to be realized, and that we must do so in order to thrive.

Diaspora existence–the reality we face–necessitates different kinds of organization than the ethnic nation-state, which continues to decline. Even if we were to feel its restoration was both possible and ideal, we would be forced to acknowledge that arriving at such a socio-political order requires we change a great deal about ourselves. As such, whether we consider ourselves nationalists or tribalists, we must study the many alternatives to nationalism which history has furnished while simultaneously keeping an eye towards the future. We cannot “win” by merely repeating ourselves.

As this blog progresses, I hope to expand 5PT to cover a variety of important topics and ideas pertinent to the conception and development of the diaspora model and the future directions it could take once it has become more powerful. Tentative key concepts and influences of 5PT which shall be expanded upon include:

  1. The De-Nationalization of the Global European Diaspora
  2. The Necessity of a New State-Agnostic Model
  3. Sub-National and Trans-National Identity as a Response to the Loss of Nation-Statehood
  4. Contributions of Fourth Generation Warfare (4GW) to De-Nationalized Thinking
  5. Models from the Millennia of Jewish Diaspora
  6. Learning from Extant “White Tribes”: The Amish and The Mennonites
  7. A Post-Electoral Perspective on the Presence of Outsiders
  8. Diversification of Location: Suitability of Regions Beyond the “First World”
  9. Civil Defense

Other topics that have come up while working on 5PT:

A table of contents with all articles written to date is available here.

Titus Quintus

April 29, 2017

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47 thoughts on “Introducing the Fifth Political Theory

    1. The pursuit of power takes a variety of forms. Manipulating a state is not the only kind, and as far as I am concerned, power of that sort is totally unreachable for anyone not willing to submit to demo-bureaucratic paradigms.

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  1. > The pursuit of power takes a variety of forms. Manipulating a state is not the only kind, and as far as I am concerned, power of that sort is totally unreachable for anyone not willing to submit to demo-bureaucratic paradigms.

    Like the Jewish diaspora. We could advocate for ourselves and interact with the outside world by sending some of our people out as emissaries. We’ll also need to engage in trade. And, to that end, we’d likely be well served to focus on a few key industries so that we can dominate them and increase our leverage.

    As another aside, I didn’t see anything about education or how we play to transmit our values across generations. I think this is of the utmost importance. Jews do it (partly) with their own schools, children’s programming, and summer camps.

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    1. Right. We are going to have to create our own parallel social institutions to make this work. Otherwise it’s just a hobby and when you die someone junks all of your model airplanes.

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      1. Because I’m close to settling down and starting a family, I’ve been thinking a lot lately about what sort of community I’d like to live in. Will you advocate for some of our people to start quietly converging on small towns? It would be incredible to live and raise children among like minded people. It also seems like a good way to start growing institutions.

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      2. Well we need to find a way to balance cost of living with access to employment. It is not about demographically taking over electoral districts or councils though if that comes as a side effect of our growth it will be useful. The important thing is to build networks of people who are spatially not as far away from one another as they are now, since that facilitates much greater economic cooperation and social life among our people. For instance, no one should be homeschooling their children alone, or purchasing all of their groceries directly or hiring outsiders to do housework when these things could have their costs reduced by educating multiple children together or by purchasing in bulk or by relying on an ethnic network. Little things like that are very important when repeated over and over, yet they are impossible if people are not literally closer together.

        Once a community is large enough it can simply impose itself on any surroundings and not be too concerned with outgroups. This is how immigrants behave; they set up a beachhead in a city or near one and more and more their kind begin to arrive until it snowballs and they have their own parallel society right in the middle of an entirely foreign country. So I am not terribly worried about small towns vs cities vs exurbs; we will go where there are opportunities. A diaspora doesn’t care that it is a minority living somewhere else, it adapts itself to those conditions.

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  2. This is a very interesting direction of thought. I wish I could refute your reasoning, but I really can’t. We are about to go through a population bottleneck, sloughing off those members of our race who lack any degree of ethnocentrism. In a sense, this could be looked at as a good thing. Yet I mourn for greatness lost, and rage at those who allowed our lands, some so recently won, to be taken from us … all for nothing but a few dollars. Our children, and their children, and so on unto the end of time, will be taught to curse the names of those who allowed the empire to fall.

    On another tack, this strategy reminds me somewhat of Neal Stephenson’s Diamond Age which, if you have not already read it, you really should. He portrays a future in which most cultural groups exist as global diasporas, with enclaves in cities all around the world. The underclass are a deracinated, homogenized mass kept pacified with a basic income and cheap entertainments. Whites have become neo-Victorians, with very strict sexual morals, classical dress codes, social taboos around the consumption of entertainment media, and a hierarchical society that bears no resemblance to democracy. They’ve specialized in nano-engineering, competing in the global marketplace by designing novel machinery.

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    1. Yes I think something like that is quite possible. With most (white) people becoming denationalized while the demographics of most (white) countries become microcosms of the global population since they permit anyone to enter them and are more desirable places to live than elsewhere, the only people left with any sense of European or Eurocolonial nationhood will by definition be both a minority and foreign to what the society they live in has become. But we wouldn’t be the only people whose diaspora is centered around not forgetting its origins and keeping outsiders out through arbitrary rules and rites.

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  3. I’m struck by the parallel between this vision of a global White diaspora, and the Jewish situation.

    Consider that by the time such a process is complete, it’s conceivable the worldwide White share of the global population that will fall to about 2%, roughly the percentage of Jews to White non-Jews.

    Also, compared to non-Whites who are moving to the West in droves, we will be highly successful unless legal restrictions are further ramped up against us. We will be villified on the basis of this success, since non-Whites think somehow we get ahead by robbing or exploiting them (much less applicable to us than when Whites made such accusations against Jews).

    For most of Jewish history, they have been stateless, and their religion unabashedly ethnocentric. This fifth political theory posits we too will soon be stateless for all intents and purposes, and if we are to survive, we must become more ethnocentric. This may require a reinterpretation of Christianity, or an unironic embrace of something else. Secular Jews aren’t reproducing themselves, and the only demographic silver lining for them has been solely due to very religious Jews having huge families.

    I think this idea has a lot of merit, and I hope we can all figure out a way to get from where we are to what you’re describing, since it may be our best hope.

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    1. A lot of people in WN circles have been finding the Jewish parallel repulsive, if only because they are so used to having diaspora tribes as their enemies so to speak. But throughout history there have been plenty of other diasporas as well, and the solution to being stateless in a situation where you cannot acquire a state is not necessarily to spend your available time thinking about having a state.

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  4. Wow. Spot-on *applause*
    I’m ecstatic that somebody else is expressing what my exact views are this articulately, and that other people are coming around to this path of thought… I started a faceberg page a year ago promoting this same tribalist, “red pilled anarchism”.
    What are your thoughts on the National-Anarchist movement and it’s chief figures like Troy Southgate or Keith Preston?
    Also, feel free to check out the episode of Rebel Yell that featured me as a guest, I think you’ll really enjoy our conversation:
    https://radio.therightstuff.biz/2017/05/07/rebel-yell-215-zach-riding-the-stateless-tiger/

    Anyhow, I would very much like to do work alongside you in any capacity possible, feel free to shoot me an email if this interests you.
    Otherwise, I very much look forward to reading the rest of the posts here throughout this week.

    Cheers

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    1. I can’t say I am well-read in any form of anarchism, national or otherwise, but in general I think any system of political or metapolitical beliefs and praxis should assume that 1.) the state will exist in some capacity and 2.) the interests of the state will align with some groups more than others.

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  5. Shifting the Overton window to the right and gaining enough traction as a movement to hold office and remove the nation-wreckers from positions of power so that you can influence the people to value their in-group above all else. That’s the stance. Trying to achieve something of a fourth Reich for all white nations. Pushing for whites to value their own identity/in-group and a state to oppose subversive elements (i.e. individuals/groups/corporations that seek to undermine the traditionalist morals or future of the ethic citizenry). That ought to be the final goal.
    As if it is the equivalent of some unsatisfactory product or drug that must be “peddled”. It is the only solution that remains for large-scale survival. Civil war is not an option? Not now, of course. But once whites operate with unity, removing the socially undesirables will only be a formality, not a challenge. This is defeatism at its worst. It’s ceding any territory before any attempts are made. Trump becoming president and securing the borders (if he follows through) is a massive step for an ethno-state as it limits the floodgates, even though it may be argued that the damage of replacement has already been done. That’s where the removal comes into play.
    “Instead of a preoccupation with nationalism, statism, or electoral politics, 5PT is about the self-selected tribe, no questions asked and nothing owed to others unless necessary for its perpetuity.”
    This is devolution of thought for the sake of crafting a movement. Nationalism (i.e. the formation of an ethno-state) is the only solution. You are describing anarcho-primitivism. You didn’t have to create an elaborate blog to post how nuanced the movement is, it’s already been defined. That’s the problem when you advocate for “not focus[ing] on wielding power on the international stage”: you will not advance anywhere. If these bands of whites were to form (under the weak state apparatus existing only as a showpiece for the bands to exist under, as pseudo-provinces, so to speak), the neighbouring nations would plunder the lands within the month because anti-nationalism (anarchist movements) will decrease unity as a group (logically, as it is individualistic). If the US disbanded its state and threw the entire concept to the wind, then they would be replaced even faster.
    “are there any European or Eurocolonial nations which support ethnic nationalism and nativism? Are there any nations which conceive of themselves as nations outside of the third world and Eastern Europe?”
    That’s the entire point: pushing for movements that seek to unite the nation and its ethnic citizenry under one banner and to expel the subversive elements from society. Doing away with the fifth column, so to speak.
    It seems to me that this is an attempt to redefine whites and start fresh, which is something I think most of us can get behind. I just don’t understand how isolated bands of whites will be conducive to promoting a white nation, if that even is your end-goal. It seems to promote disunity. It’s one thing if you advocate for, say, the Confederate states to secede because the North has become plagued with a cancer of the mind; it’s another thing to tell the Confederate states to secede and throw down the banner of their people, opting to operate as nomads or “diaspora”. Anti-nationalism is against the interests of any group of people that wishes to further their future. Why do you think Jews fight so hard to attain positions of power and influence in the US if not to achieve a stable future for their diaspora population (by enacting hate speech laws, for example). I can sympathize with the return and revival of the roots (like a phoenix, rising from the ashes), it just seems to promote disunity by promoting anti-nationalism. Why become a “diaspora” in your own nation if you can actively influence your fellow countrymen towards your cause and remove the parasites?

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    1. Referring to your final lines, because it’s not your nation and they are not your fellow countrymen anymore, not most of them anyway. Liberal white people would rather you be expelled from their community than Muslims. And illiberal white people are nearly as domesticated, which is why those who think a second civil war would be beneficial to nationalism have no idea how bad it would get. (It’s not hard to imagine a scenario in which both the left and “right” refuse to work with “racists” during a conflict).

      Now, if people want to advocate for nationalism they can. I do not think nationalism is a bad thing per se; my problem is that scattered minorities of Europeans and Eurocolonials demanding they be given control of a state so they can deport millions of people isn’t working, not even on their intended audience of fellow white people. It hasn’t worked for decades. White nationalism is not new and neither is advocating for it. “National socialist” movements in the United States and Europe are not new either.

      Nationalists are focusing on what they would do WITH power when they are people utterly WITHOUT power.

      People who are both locked out of the demo-bureaucratic state as an interest group and lacking actual real-world communities are not going to change the direction of things, nor will they survive the direction things are headed in.

      I think that’s fairly straightforward. If there are no “pro-white” communities anywhere then what is white nationalism standing for beyond fiction writing? If you want a nation you have to work for it, not simply theorize about whether or not it exists and what its territory should be. History of full of examples of nations that disappear from the records for centuries. So long as the population survives and reproduces its culture and sense of place in the world it can regenerate at some point. You have to do more than angrily denounce the status quo.

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      1. Of course, the traitor is the plague. But instead of purging the party of the undesirable elements, you’d opt to disband and remove yourself from the party altogether before any attempt at winning the culture war has been made. Like I said, it is purely defeatist. “It’s not hard to imagine a scenario in which both the left and “right” refuse to work with “racists” during a conflict”
        You’re missing my point, the entire movement is to make them all “racist”. Once they are ideologically united, it is only a matter of time.
        “I do not think nationalism is a bad thing per se; my problem is that scattered minorities of Europeans and Eurocolonials demanding they be given control of a state so they can deport millions of people isn’t working, not even on their intended audience of fellow white people. It hasn’t worked for decades.”
        Decades since the last time it did. The problem with this entire system is that it vehemently denies the possibility for a “blood and soil” nationalist political climate to ever arise again. The Overton window is not some one-way street, it is a pendulum that shifts given the circumstance. But it must be shifted with work, as well (I ask not for lighter weights, but for broader shoulders, so to speak). It always rises up when nobody thinks it will because of effort and utilizing the circumstances available.

        “White nationalism is not new and neither is advocating for it. “National socialist” movements in the United States and Europe are not new either.”
        I never said they weren’t new. They have existed for some time, but have faded into irrelevancy because they have been forgotten: there is no contesting that. The point is that they existed, and Rockwell’s “hate bus” was certainly met with a different reaction that it would be today. The issue is that you see the pendulum swing high up on one end and become blackpilled. All that means is that when it swings back, it will do so with lots of potential energy to spare.
        “Nationalists are focusing on what they would do WITH power when they are people utterly WITHOUT power.”

        If Trump does nothing else and becomes another Zionist, erecting the Wall will do more for nationalist movements than anything else.
        “People who are both locked out of the demo-bureaucratic state as an interest group and lacking actual real-world communities are not going to change the direction of things, nor will they survive the direction things are headed in.”
        See, this is where I agree with you. If your whole point is to push for some interest groups when whites become a minority, then that’s only reasonable. But it is a last resort and is set on the assumption that nobody will be able to tell the sleeping gentile that he is nothing more than a frog in boiling water. If you can get him to notice that, then you have won.
        “I think that’s fairly straightforward. If there are…”
        But it isn’t just waxing poetic for the sake of reviving the “good old days”. There is a great effort underway to push for newer generations to become much more conservative-minded. People are working very hard for their nation. This doesn’t change the fact that many are not, but white males have always been voting right. All that needs to occur is that the cuckoos who have replaced actual pro-white conservatives must be ejected from the nest.

        Some more clarifying questions: is this entire movement just advocacy for whites to operate like non-whites once they become a minority? By that, I mean forming white ghettos (not in the sense of poverty, but an all-white area), sticking by their own culture, preserving their lineage, etc. Basically, like you mentioned in the OP, “sub/trans-nationalism” (or nationalism underneath/beyond ‘x’, which is, in this context I assume, the non-white majority’s nationalist sentiments).
        If you’re basically just advocating for Amish communities (in that they are all-white) in a sea of non-whites, then the exact same critique you raise against my points can be extended to yours: what makes you think the fifth column will allow you to exist as you do? They will launch campaigns against your villages of whites just as the Jewish Old Bolsheviks launched a war against “anti-Semitism”.

        To summarize, it is disadvantageous, but still tactically sound (as a fall-back plan), to push for a game plan once whites become a minority, because at that point, they will already be lost. It will be a losing man’s game and only a matter of time. The entire point should be to avoid whites becoming a minority by following the first paragraph of my response. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mZx787Htrc. Even now, while whites are a majority, the same critiques you raise are extended against them. What makes you think they will not exist once whites hold no power? You will just be sitting ducks, which is why it is defeatist.

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      2. By the time you’ve made everyone into a “racist,” I think Europeans and Eurocolonials would already be a minority. And to survive as a minority you need to have a sense of tribal consciousness and a diaspora mindset, that you do not belong to your place of residence and are part of a larger community that has been displaced from self-rule.

        You can call this attitude defeatism, but what do you call the historical record since the 1960s in European countries? Every country becomes less European. Every government drifts on a long arc towards further liberalism and multiculturalism (with mild interruptions here and there) because that is the nature of the demo-bureaucratic state.

        This cannot be fixed by making a good argument against it. That is the problem nationalists are running into a wall with.

        White nationalists are a minority of white people and most white people want nothing to do with white nationalism. That minority has the potential to be the future Western diaspora that will itself be the potential revival of our civilization. 19th and 20th century forms of socio-political organization that date to the period where we ruled the world are very different from the situation we are in now.

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      3. “By the time you’ve made everyone into a “racist,” I think Europeans and Eurocolonials would already be a minority.”
        Well, even if we took a snapshot today in the US, this would be true as whites are already a minority of the overall births, and they sure won’t be “racist” after they pass through the public schooling systems.
        “And to survive as a minority you need to have a sense of tribal consciousness and a diaspora mindset”
        Well, this is hardly news to anybody. That much is obvious. This has always been known, why did this “movement” have to begin to point out the obvious? If whites become a minority, then they must operate to subvert the non-white majority, just as the non-whites did to them.
        “You can call this attitude defeatism, but what do you call the historical record since the 1960s in European countries? Every country becomes less European. Every government drifts on a long arc towards further liberalism and multiculturalism (with mild interruptions here and there) because that is the nature of the demo-bureaucratic state.”
        Now I’m beginning to have my confusion cleared up. I think the point of the movement (although it is pointing out the obvious) is to put forward a last-case scenario where the most undesirable outcome occurs: whites become minorities. Then, when that occurs, this is like a “Samson option”, so to speak. Bring down the whole ship with the non-white majority on board so that you can rebuild.
        I agree on the point about a democratic state naturally advancing its own interests first. Import voters and make them dependent.

        “This cannot be fixed by making a good argument against it. That is the problem nationalists are running into a wall with.”
        I beg to differ, and that’s the whole point I’m trying to make. I used to be about as much of a good goy as they come, but after coming across some arguments that I just couldn’t rebut, I, naturally, decided to use them myself. For example, against the modern masses, you can state: “Whites are just a group of people that operate in their own self-interest. What are you, a racist?” Using emotional “I am outraged at your beliefs” arguments is also something good to fall back on, as that is what they are most accustomed to.
        “White nationalists are a minority of white people and most white people want nothing to do with white nationalism. That minority has the potential to be the future Western diaspora that will itself be the potential revival of our civilization. 19th and 20th century forms of socio-political organization that date to the period where we ruled the world are very different from the situation we are in now.”
        See, this is why I don’t understand why you had to go and make a whole page about all of this. By virtue of that minority being WN, they will, by default and as a result of their beliefs, become the diaspora tribe if they were to become minorities in their own homelands. You seem to be under the impression that the WN minority will forget about all of this if they were to become a minority. That is not true, the opposite is true: they will become emboldened.
        Basically, white nationalists will always value whites because that’s why they are white nationalists. There is no need to remind WN of all people to not take up any strategy necessary to preserve their people. This is doubly true if they become a minority. It does come off as defeatist when you point out the obvious because it seems that you are alluding to a future without having first exerted any work to prevent it.

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      4. What work is there to prevent minority status for Europeans is what I cannot seem to get an answer to from white nationalists, beyond the realm of state-based policy proposals.

        If all that time passes and the state never passes into the hands of nationalists, then what? If there is no sea change among the European majority that leads it to support ethno-nationalism then we will be left with an increasingly tribal European minority. I think that is the likely scenario and the fact that there is no serious answer to this is or what it means is what I am working to address.

        The elephant in the room is that nationalism does not have good odds.

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  6. It sounds like you’re advocating a White people’s version of Rod Drehr’s Benedict Option.

    The real question is will they let you do it? Social justice Warriors are far more fanatical than most religious missionaries.

    Near me in Brooklyn the Hasidic Jews have their own neighborhood, with delis signs asking for proper dress.

    So of course SJWs invaded wearing provocative attire and the ACLU is now suing the Hasidic Jews for discrimination based on dress code .

    These Hasidic Jewish people have a diversity problem!

    And there are movements doing this – the NorthWest and Cascadia movements.

    I honestly don’t know if this is possible. Do we need political power to be left alone?

    We send armies across the sea to make sure Muslim women have liberal values and Western college degrees, and they have an entire court system of hate speech and discrimination laws to tear apart any community that resists the holy order of liberalism.

    Mark Citadel had a strategy in mind, call it…the Muslim strategy :

    https://citadelfoundations.wordpress.com/2015/07/09/parallel-blueprint-to-victory/

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    1. It is less a matter of asking their permission and finding ways to comply with the rules we’re given. Obviously if you actively discriminate that is illegal. Pretty much all discrimination is illegal. But if there is nothing obvious for outsiders to force their way into just for the purpose of legal trolling against you…

      We can’t do nothing, and conversely they cannot prevent us from doing everything. We need to figure out what spaces we are allowed to create and act in, and work from there.

      I quite like that Citadel article and the term parallelgesellschaft. Very much that is what we will need to do.

      As for Dreher, I keep hearing him in reference so I may have to give it a read.

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  7. Why not start building your tribe/clan right now and teach others how to do the same through your example and instruction? No need to separate from the state at this point; it is not time for that yet, so don’t worry about it. Just build strong networks, borrowing ideas that work from other RL groups. Building up yourself, family, nation, etc. is something you should be doing anyway.

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  8. Hello, do you have any deadline in mind for having finished your nine chapters? Together with a friend, we are creating an independent publishing house and may be interested into translating and publishing your essay on paper. More and more red-pilled (if I can say so) Europeans are gaining awareness of the need for a grassroots action, outside of usual mainstream politics and nation-States. Who knows, perhaps we will become somehow like the Jews, only better.

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      1. Fine. If you write about the topics you announced on a manner structured enough, we (myself and two friends) would be interested into translating the whole in French and publish it as a book. If you want to take some time to write first and rework the whole thing after, we can wait.

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  9. I am a member of a US WN organization. As you can tell from other comments have posted here, I am advocate for 5PT and passionate about it. I have encountered resistance from some of my fellows for all the reasons you can imagine (“it’s defeatism”; “we’re not jews”) and more, but everyone I’ve met who strikes me as bejng in any way intelligent or realistic knows it’s the future, a superior alternative to the failed models of the past: bestial, unreliable criminal nazism, overreaching white supremacism such as in the American South, discredited National Socialism, and utopian ethnonationalism.
    If there is anything you think I could to help contribute to this project, especially by donation or writing, email me.
    There of other individuals who I know who could write on other aspects of reconstructing the European tribe in diaspora, including traditional hierarchal society, religion and folkways, and the economics of diaspora communities.
    Look forward to hearing from you, and godspeed.

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    1. Maybe I will set up a bitcoin address for tips.

      In any event, the diaspora is a goal I would like to see more people thinking about and writing about, certainly more than engaging in escapist mythmaking about “the ethnostate.” Nationalist theory and praxis have hardly budged in decades and only the delivery of the message seems to have changed.

      I would certainly encourage people to build on the diaspora concept and think about ways we can make it happen.

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      1. Then If it is alright by you sir, I am well read on the history of the Jews, including their ur-identity and then transformation as a diaspora, so i would be honored if you allowed me to write on the topic of adapting their tribal strategies to a caste European society that could allow us to thrive in a non-white world. I see it is one of your topics, and if you haven’t already started it, I would enjoy the work.

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  10. If Whites had the capacity to emulate the Jewish diaspora then we could easily reconstitute within a nation state anywhere on Earth. We don’t and this weakness requires the formation of a fascistic state as the genesis of a viable and lasting western culture.

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    1. Let’s assume for a moment that fascism is ‘the solution’ to having a weak ethnos.

      Whites as a broad category are no longer ethnocentric. They are governed by cosmopolitans whose policy is to increase the non-European share of the population through immigration and redistribution. Ethnocentric whites are who I am referring to as the future Western diaspora, because given their dispersion and statelessness (outside of Eastern Europe), diaspora best describes their condition and possibilities. The deracinated whites are probably never going to ‘save’ themselves. Fascism does not appeal to them because none of its premises are seen as valid.

      I do not see fascism as possible in say, the United States or France, where huge swathes of the population are inherently anti-fascist, because they are either cosmopolitans or non-European. Fascism is a form of modern mass politics and we are fast approaching the end of our ability to practice mass politics, let alone elect ultranationalist authoritarian parties. In Western Europe, the Americas, and British Oceania, ethnocentric whites are an absolute minority. Even if they formed fascist parties they would never win elections, unless the vote was split many ways (highly unlikely given the dominance of liberal cosmopolitanism across all parties and the conformity to deracinated politics).

      Europeans lived for thousands of years without what is specifically called fascism. It is not the only way, and in our current predicament(s), it is an impossible way. Diaspora people cannot practice fascism at all because they lack a state. What they can do is a subject to be developed as central to 5PT: tribal praxis.

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  11. I’ve been reading through various posts here and I’m blown away by the undertaking, but also the framework you are thinking through and attempting to establish.
    We know that the identity for Americans of European ancestry has both been shed over the generations well as targeted for destruction by the social marxists. (Don’t forget the elimination of the foundations, particularly Christian ones that have been exchanged for secularism and new ideologies such as social justice.)
    That leaves an entire swath of us and others without an identity floundering around looking for purpose. Most of us can already tell that the WN types can offer nothing, besides pseudo paganism and an emphasis on “white” culture that from what we can tell deserves to disappear after its people abandoned their roots and foundations during the French Revolution and on.
    We need something. We need a tribe. Your words jumped off the page. It’s almost as if you are suggesting the start of a new tribal diaspora that can exist in the current globalization of modernity similar to what the Jews, Gypsies, etc have done over the age regardless of where they moved.
    I suppose Christianity was this common element, but now with Europeans and their descendants here having abandoned it, no one knows what next to bond us – besides adherence to the new cultish ideologies with their new original sins of guilt, privilege, etc.
    I look forward to further insight from you from someone who is not a full-out reactionary – at least not yet.

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    1. Thanks for reading. The religious question is definitely a complicated one, but if we are truly at the start of a new political paradigm for our civilization we should expect a new spirituality and metaphysical understanding as well. If I had to guess it would start as a very simplified derivative of what people are familiar with now and develop more complexity later.

      The decline of Christianity is a European phenomenon (it remains robust in the third world), so it may simply be a spent source of meaning for Europeans. The “deus vult” variety of white nationalist engages in the same sort of decontextualized reconstruction as neo-pagans–no significant living Christian church’s hierarchy or clergy agrees with his interpretation. It is as private and personal of a faith as that of an Odinist.

      The challenge is to encompass these fractured post-modern romanticisms into a ecumenical overarching religious system for the Western diaspora. There was a similar window of opportunity in the classical world when the Romans didn’t think of Jesus as all that different from other gods as they understood them and would worship him alongside them. Such an interpretation did not last, though Christianity was growing more robust while Roman polytheism was declining. Among ethnocentric Europeans and Eurocolonials we find a much more leveled field: a wildly disproportionate amount of people claiming to be either pagans (whether Western or Eastern) or medievalist Christians than any other white cohort. There is an opportunity for a new synthesis, though not one which is guaranteed, and one which would require some eventual polar authority to be spiritual center above any individual religious tradition.

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